Celebrate tax day?

For years, individual Americans representing various “truth, honesty and protest” income-tax groups, including We the People (www.GiveMeLiberty.org), FairTax (www.FairTax.org), and Truth Attack (www.TruthAttack.org), have been striking from work annually on April 15 to spend the day at their local post office—or other visible public locations—distributing various pieces of literature on the subject to fellow Americans in the process of mailing their tax forms.

Joining us this year will be the New American Tea Party (locally, www.AshevilleTeaParty.wordpress.com), a new nonpartisan group of folks who believe the government should obey the law, and should not give public money to corporations and other private interests. Such giveaways are outside the federal government’s jurisdiction and the powers granted to it, as limited by the U.S. Constitution.

There will also be new participants from the nonpartisan grass-roots group The 9-12 Project (www.TheGlennBeck912Project.com), which is now brewing as a result of recent encouragement by media personality Glenn Beck.

An easily and inexpensively reproduced “Tax Day Strike ‘09” flier can be downloaded (sites.google.com/site/wethepeoplenc/files), introducing Americans to our right to petition for redress of grievances, as guaranteed by the “accountability clause”—the last 10 words of the First Amendment.

To learn more about local April 15 nonpartisan tax-day activism, visit:  LibertyAsheville (www.libertyasheville.ning.com) and 9-12 Project Asheville (www.9-12projectashevillenc.ning.com).

— Bernard Baruch Carman
Asheville

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33 thoughts on “Celebrate tax day?

  1. travelah

    The only partisans opposed to this economic rape are the rapists themselves

  2. yes, by and large, the efforts of Americans standing up to the illegalities of the current Income Tax schemes have been very non-partisan. this tradition continues.

    i believe the organization chopping at the root of most of the problems we face as “America” is We the People @ GiveMeLiberty.org.

    yes, their website needs MUCH work, but for a very thorough presentation regarding their efforts within 80 minutes, i suggest listening to the mp3 audio file at this site:

    http://sites.google.com/site/wethepeoplenc/files

  3. Dionysis

    “a result of recent encouragement by media personality Glenn Beck.

    Well whoopie ‘effin’ do, Glenn Beck. Let’s see now, time to re-visit some of Glenn’s greatest hits:

    ” Glenn Beck referred to survivors of Hurricane Katrina who remained in New Orleans as “scumbags.” Also, after acknowledging that nobody “in their right mind is going to say this out loud,” Beck attacked victims of the disaster in general and the families of victims of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, saying: “I didn’t think I could hate victims faster than the 9-11 victims.”

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200509090003

    Yessiree, he is certainly one that will guarantee a big turnout. No one can encourage like that dimwitted a-hole. Encourage others of his ilk, that is.

  4. my first introduction to Glenn Beck was his mockery of Ron Paul, so i approach his efforts with caution.

    however, everyone makes mistakes, and i can only presume his recent self-prescribed libertarian conversion is real.

    that said, what is your point? the non-partisan Tax Day events really have nothing to do with Glenn Beck, other than the folks attending who have been recently been encouraged by his 9-12Project, which i thus far support. should it turn into something partisan or anti-libertarian, i would discontinue support of it and encourage others do likewise.

    not all, but many folks i have met thus far in local 9-12Project meetings seem to be of a libertarian mindset, which is like a breath of fresh air after the continued bombardment of deceptive “left” vs. “right” banter.

    but again, the non-partisan Tax Day Strike and Tea Party in support of Constitutionally limited government and accountability to the rule of law is the issue here, not Glenn Beck.

  5. avlmtnman

    Glenn Beck is hardly the founder of the tea parties. While he may be a proponent, he hardly got them started.

    The tea parties are as grassroots as it gets. It’s people who are tired of the spending and intrusions of government in our lives. And, both parties are guilty of it. It’s funny how the only grassroots movements the left appreciates are the left-wing ones.

    Dionysis, check out the Asheville tea party website…

    http://ashevilleteaparty.wordpress.com/

    You will see how they are pushing it as non-partisan. Of course there maybe some on the extreme right, but there are extremes at the lefty events also.

    And, to anyone except those on the extreme left, MediaMatters.org is hardly a source from which to get impartial information. Why don’t you actually listen to his show to get your opinion and information.

  6. Dionysis

    “that said, what is your point?”

    Actually, the question is ‘what is the point of promoting Glenn Beck in the context of this letter?’
    Dropping his name seems to be a kind of PR ‘hook’.

    That is “my point.”

  7. Dionysis, the point of making mention of Glenn Beck’s 9-12Project, is that is it ONE more group of people who are FOR Constitutionally limited government.

    the overall point of the article is to let our fellow Americans in AVL know that there are various non-partisan groups who are behind Tax Day activism.

    my personal agenda is to share information with my fellow Americans about the Accountability Clause of the First Amendment, and the efforts of the We the People Foundation & Congress, chaired by Bob Schulz.

    why? because i personally believe that advancing liberty via the ballot box is moot at this point, due to blatant corruption.

    i have been very much intrigued by learning more about the Accountability Clause, and the founders’ advice for how to peacefully deal with an oppressive government who continues to ignore our Petitions for Redress, and who refuses to obey the law.

    wherever i find other individuals, or groups of individuals, who share common interests in these regards, i am so moved to try and work with them.

    the effort to which i speak is NOT about ending ALL taxation. it’s about mandating LEGAL & CONSTITUTIONAL taxation, AND mandating the government obey the rule of law, and be limited by the Constitution.

    without having this be the standard for government policy, this country is arguably no longer America, but some Neo-Amerika which is governed by whim rather than rule of law.

  8. Dionysis

    “Dionysis, the point of making mention of Glenn Beck’s 9-12Project, is that is it ONE more group of people who are FOR Constitutionally limited government.”

    I can understand that; however, many don’t see Glenn Beck as remotely ‘non-partisan’. It’s also a bit ironic that Beck would be hawking this ‘9-12 Project’ (tearfully, it seems), to see a return to the kind of unity witnessed on that day in 2001, while Mr. Beck has been as active in dividing people as anyone in the media.

    In any event, you and the others have every right to express your views and to demonstrate in support of them. While this is just a guess, I would be surprised if more than a few dozen people turned out.

  9. Dionysis

    “to anyone except those on the extreme left, MediaMatters.org is hardly a source from which to get impartial information. Why don’t you actually listen to his show to get your opinion and information.”

    Two points: first, if you can refute the content, the do so, but attacking the messenger is simply avoiding the message. Nothing in your post shows the content of the article was incorrect. If you can refute it, do so.

    Second, I have listened to his show (or as much of it as I could stomach). I find him to be a kind of Rush Limbaugh lite, not too bright and decidedly partisan.

  10. hey Dionysis, i can understand your point about Beck not appearing non-partisan. i don’t listen to his show, nor any shows for that matter, so i cannot really accurately comment on that.

    however, i am thankful that most of the folks i have met thus far getting involved in the 9-12Project DO seem to be of a non-partisan mindset.

    sure, many of them hold “conservative” values, but most of them i’ve met feel partisan politics is largely BS. i personally hold both “conservative” and “liberal” values, as defined by the status quo politico, but i am trying to avoid the deceptive game which is played within the Neo-Amerikan political arena.

    i truly believe the matter is not about “left” vs. “right”, or “liberal” vs. “conservative”, but tyranny vs. LIBERTY. i’m on the side of LIBERTY, and i seek to stand with any individuals or groups who happen to advance liberty.

    if only a few dozen folks show up, that will be dozens more than have ever turned out since i’ve been personally engaging in local Tax Day activism (which has only been since around 2001 or so)… and that would be GREAT! 8-)

  11. Dionysis

    ” i have met thus far getting involved in the 9-12Project DO seem to be of a non-partisan mindset.”

    Actually, that’s good to learn.

    “i truly believe the matter is not about “left” vs. “right”, or “liberal” vs. “conservative”, but tyranny vs. LIBERTY. i’m on the side of LIBERTY, and i seek to stand with any individuals or groups who happen to advance liberty.”

    There is probably more agreement on this concept among people than lack thereof, but of course, part of the problem is with the definition. For example, to some people, giving up Constitutional guarantees of some expressions of ‘freedom’ in favor of the perception of security might, to them, mean ‘liberty’ (i.e. the liberty of not worrying about dying in an attack), whereas others are willing to take some risks on that front in order to preserve freedom of expression, movement, assembly, etc. (I would be on that side of the ledger).
    Another example would be someone who sanctified private property above all else, and would feel deprived of their ‘liberty’ if they were impeded from, say, opening a tire-burning operation on their property, whereas their neighbor might feel deprived of the ‘liberty’ to enjoy clean air. And so forth.

    It’s hard to be against liberty, but as the saying goes, the devil is in the details.

  12. who

    We need to pay taxes. We need social infrastructure. What are you guys proposing? No more taxes at all? Are we to entrust our social needs – to be basic: sewers, roads, etc.. to all that got to keep their money from not paying taxes? What is it that the tax revolters are really getting at? Is it just a cloaked push for another run at laissez faire? An extreme idea good in theory but not practical – just like communism. Do you guys want to give up your social contract? Fill your pockets and believe that your newly aquired wealth will help pave the way to a better world through your entrepreneurship? What a fantasy. Is this revolutionary? It sounds old and tired to me. This isn’t 1776. Where’s the imagination?

  13. greetings “who”,

    this is not about people against taxes of all forms. this is about government accountability to the law, and irresponsible use of our taxes.

    there are VARIOUS arguments regarding tax systems, and also about the jurisdiction of the various levels of government.

    for example, roads are supposed to be matters of County & State governance, not Federal. many of the issues related to tax protests have to do with the role of the various levels of government.

    the tax protest issue upon which i personally focus has to do with the Accountability Clause of the First Amendment.

    please take a moment to read over the Tax Day Strike ’09 flier i have created which gives a very basic summation of the issue of the only other peaceful means than the ballot box by which We the People can hold our government accountable:

    http://sites.google.com/site/wethepeoplenc/files

    on this website, there is also an 80 minute audio presentation by Bob Schulz, We the People Chair, going into MUCH detail about this issue.

    our hope in holding a Continental Congress 2009 is to come up with a reasonable strategy of how to implement the advice of the founders in peacefully dealing with an oppressive government who refuses to be limited by the US Constitution.

    i am merely trying to help by educating my fellow Americans about this very important right, and i try to work with any other groups of individuals who have common goals.

    thank you for your inquiry, and please let me know if you have any further questions.

    bbc@infinitygames.com

    8-)

  14. Piffy!

    “for example, roads are supposed to be matters of County & State governance, not Federal.”

    Hmmm, ever drive on an interstate highway? thats federal.

    Any other parannoid delusions you need cleared up?

  15. … and it was never supposed to be. there are various areas of government involvement which have been declared as “Federal”, but should be left up to either the states or counties.

    public education is yet another example of this.

    i don’t understand why this seems like a “paranoid delusion” to you, but whatever makes you happy!

    perhaps you just prefer the Federal Government be involved in areas beyond its jurisdiction, or perhaps you prefer big centralized government.

    i prefer that it be confined to its Constitutional limitations, and allow state & county governments to fulfill responsibilities such as roads, education, law enforcement, and the fire department and rescue.

    i believe decentralized government is much better than centralized government, with regard to maximizing individual liberties and minimizing the scope and power of the State.

    but to each his own.

  16. … oh, another area perhaps noteworthy to mention which should be left to the states/counties is drug legislation. the states/counties are very capable of legislating their own drug laws.

    besides being addicted to our taxes, the Federal Government has an affinity for ENDLESS WARS: War on Drugs, War on Poverty, War on Terrorism, etc…

    but again, perhaps you prefer an unlimited centralized government to legislate nearly every facet of private life.

    not me! 8-)

  17. who writes: “Is it just a cloaked push for another run at laissez faire?”

    Where is this mythical laissez-faire?

    It is not laissez-faire capitalism that gave us the bank bailouts that restored profitability to failed corporations and gave million dollar golden parachutes to CEO’s.

    It is not laissez-faire capitalism that gave us the Federal Reserve, which inflates the money supply with unbacked fiat currency and manipulates interest rates.

    It is not laissez-faire capitalism that gave us the Community Reinvestment Act that forced lending institutions to give loans to the riskiest Americans.

    It is not laissez-faire capitalism that gave us the immoral war on drugs, unjust protectionism, or arrogant and costly imperialism.

    Laissez-faire demands the strict separation of economy and state. Where is this unregulated laissez-faire economy to which you refer?

    Instead, what I see is greedy and fraudulent politicians giving unbridled government interference in the free market a run. That is something I think we should not considering doing again. After all, it government interventionism that is the source of today’s economic crisis.

  18. Who

    I wouldn’t want to live in an Anne Raynd “paradise” where all facets of society would be subject to the mighty dollar. I wouldn’t put total trust in a profit only system – although the profit endeavor has many positives to it. I also wouldn’t want to live in a Trotskyist society filled with comrades stuck in group think – although there are many state social services that benefit society that profiteers wouldn’t touch, of which we need. So, yeah, we’re talking about taxes, right?

  19. who

    Tim, are you saying that all these shenanigans happened because there isn’t/wasn’t ever a true laissez faire?

  20. “Tim, are you saying that all these shenanigans happened because there isn’t/wasn’t ever a true laissez faire?”

    Unequivocally.

  21. saleem abubatta

    Tim, if you are a rich man your politics would be appropriate. I am suspecting you are poor. What is up with that?

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