By one account, there have been 293 deaths in Buncombe County due to COVID-19. That’s nearly 300 people. Neighbors, family members, friends — 300 people is a neighborhood. To me, that’s a large number, but not so enormous that no one can fathom it.
How about printing all the names of the deceased? Is that a violation of their privacy? I think it’s public knowledge, or it should be. Let all the anti-maskers see the results of the virus on a local level.
— Mark H. Bloom Asheville
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8 thoughts on “Letter: Name Buncombe’s COVID-19 fatalities”
C-Law
So Mark what you’re saying is none of the deceased wore their face masks? That must have been it, right? Masks are protective so the only way people get and succumb to SARS-CoV2 is if they didn’t mask up? Cause if only everyone would wear 2,3, maybe 4 masks or more and then go out and try 2, maybe 3 of the EUA “vaccines” then maybe, just maybe we could relax a little bit and live life? We’d all be saved then, right?
Good luck with that Boomer…
Erev Shabbat Shalom
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bsummers
There’s a special place in hell for those who discourage wearing masks in the middle of a pandemic. Those who run anonymous sockpuppets are not exempt.
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C-Law
You got nothing Barry, just the same tired old NPC lines you’re programmed to say.
We were lied to about masks. We were told they’d make a material difference in spreading of Covid-19 and so would closing restaurants. Now the CDC has admitted that neither did statistically anything and the harms from the shutdowns killed many times more people than were saved. Yet still to this day the media claims “masks work” because someone said they did.
In fact 40 years of hard science says masks do nothing to interdict transmission of airborne viruses and indeed doesn’t even work for bacteria as source control in an operating room; bacteria are many times the size of a virus. The press has maintained all of this fiction. We’ve had several attempts to challenge it over the decades since — without success. Indeed, as I’ve pointed out since this crap started last year not one controlled trial has ever found statistical evidence for mask use in the general population among untrained persons. Instead it’s just…… the lie.
Oh, it’s just a mask you say. Oh really? That’s all? You’re sure? You have excused this and let the media continue to get away with it because it’s just a mask, or it’s just your political enemy?
.The CDC itself has now stated quite clearly that mask mandates are statistically worthless; they are good for roughly only a 2% reduction in Covid-19 death rates. Note that their inside statistical claim (“worst case”) was less than 1% for both cases and deaths. Worse, closing restaurants was only good for a 2.2 percent, at the outside, reduction in cases and the inside, that is, least case rate reduction from closing restaurants for inside dining, was literally zero.
Statistically speaking without the mask mandate the CDC admits that only between one and four additional persons would have died in Buncombe County. How many additional people committed suicide, OD’d on drugs or drank themselves to death over the last year above the previous year’s rate as a result of the mandate?
Last time I checked dead is dead and the why does not matter; the claim that the mandates “saved lives on balance” is admitted by the CDC itself in its own document to be a bald-faced lie.
How many suicides and drug ODs locally and nationally were caused by the employment and social interaction destruction via these mandates? How many women did not go to the doctor for a suspicious lump, a senior to work up an odd neurological symptom, or a Black man for that pain in the chest and now are dead from cancer, a heart attack or stroke as a direct consequence of being fraudulently scared into believing that any contact with others will kill them? What makes you believe those excess deaths are over now? They most-certainly are not!
We can only account for about half of the excess death in the last year via Covid-19 alone, assuming you even believe that Covid-19 claimed “deaths” were really caused by Covid-19 while there was no flu-related death at all.
Let’s just take one statistical increase — death by overdose. At 3% — the outside boundary for mask “benefit”–masks saved 15,000 lives in America (out of the 500,000 allegedly lost to Covid-19), assuming you believe every Covid-19 death counted is really from Covid-19. The run rate of death from ODs at the start of the Covid-craze was approximately 70,000/year. As of July, the latest date for which data is available at present the OD expected 12-month count (remember, this is only about five months of time!) stood at 83,544.
There was no net benefit whatsoever to the mask mandates counting just ODs and in fact there were materially more OD deaths caused on an annualized basis than there were lives saved from masks. Alcohol abuse, cancers, heart attacks, stokes and similar also count and show up in all-cause mortality; as noted only half of that increase can reasonably be attributed to Covid-19. If the restaurant shutdowns and masks were only good for a 0-3% reduction in outcomes then the deaths that resulted from the policy responses and mandates were much worse than the “benefits” gained in the form of fewer Covid-19 deaths. That puts the lie to the ridiculous mask up “for the greater good” clucking.
Note that the CDC “study”referenced above is utter crap; I could trivially tear it apart but for the purpose of this I will give the CDC the benefit of accepting “as pled, is true” the assertions they make. In other words I will not even bother ripping their alleged “study” to bits because even if I accept it without question the data still says they’re murderous *******s and their interventions had a net effect of killing people instead of saving them!
Let me be clear: The CDC has admitted in print that for every 1 death avoided through closing restaurants and bars along with mask mandates, five to ten deaths were caused in the form of excess suicides, drug ODs, alcohol abuse, cancers, strokes and heart attacks, none of which had anything to do with Covid-19 infection but all of which were a function of social, financial, and economic stress their demanded mandates deliberately imposed on the population.
IN OTHER WORDS THE CDC ADMITTED IN PRINT THAT THEIR BULL**** “MANDATES” AND “RECOMMENDATIONS” KILLED FIVE TO TEN TIMES MORE PEOPLE THAN IT ALLEGEDLY “SAVED.”
Yet these bastards have not, after admitting in print that their demanded mandates in fact caused five to ten times as much death as was avoided, reversed course and demanded a rescission of all such “rules” and regulations nor have the people of the nation apparently been able to perform basic arithmetic and then started erecting gallows on the lawn of every single government agency that has refused to stop killing the people within their jurisdiction at a greatly increased rate through their mandates.
Over 400,000 Americans are dead as a direct and proximate result of all of this and yet here we are with the NY Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/13/us/coronavirus-florida-booming.html?referringSource=articleShare) admitting in print what I’ve said all along: None of the so-called “mitigations” and measures, whether they be mask mandates, business closures, school shutdowns or similar saved a single net person-year of life; in point of fact the data is that none of them did a damned thing except kill multiples of those “saved” by causing more suicides, drug ODs, heart attacks and similar, destroyed a year’s worth of our children’s education which will cost trillions of dollars alone in lost productivity over the next fifty years, and statistically-speaking the same number of people died of the virus that would have died anyway.
Every single one of the rat bastards in government and so-called “public health” deserves to be tried and executed for their intentional destruction of human life and dignity for political and financial profit. They knew damn well on the data that their policies did not, could not, and would not work in the summer and early fall and continued them anyway. Worse, we had decades of experience and hard science proving that they wouldn’t work before Covid-19 ever appeared.
Willful blindness cannot be used as an excuse.
In that I was right a year ago stating publicly here on MtnX that none of the lockdowns, mask orders, business and school closures would have a net positive impact and unlike damn near everyone else I have not changed my position on the usefulness of such measures, I will now enjoy taking a little victory lap here.
You’re welcome Summers.
James
The only people who killed people were bio-terrorists like you who refused to wear a mask and downplayed every attempt to protect your fellow human beings. Take your victory lap among the damned.
Sarah Clement
You completely misunderstood that first CDC article you cited. It didn’t say there was a 2% reduction in covid deaths. It said there was a 2% reduction in the *daily* growth rate. So rather than having 2% less total cases, every day the number of total cases was rising 2% *less* than it was before the mask mandate.
@Sarah Clement – they presented both total case count delta percentages AND death percentages. The two SHOULD be equal unless a mandate tends to shift cases toward more or less morbid people, which apparently with restaurant closures, it does.
The study is crap by the way; the study ITSELF states that there are confounders they did not control for which screw the results, but as I said, I gave it to them “as pled”, which is extremely generous. Nonetheless there’s no way that the mandates been a net win…nationally, or most especially for the Asheville community and economy.
Even if you take the two measures in combo we did not come out ahead because you have to count all the various increased mortalities I listed– (suicides, missed diagnosis, etc.). Now add in the economic and mental health effects and the mandates were a clear loser.
PS–kudos for actually looking at the study instead of skipping straight to the part where you condemn someone you don’t even know to hell and damnation like the above respondents.
So Mark what you’re saying is none of the deceased wore their face masks? That must have been it, right? Masks are protective so the only way people get and succumb to SARS-CoV2 is if they didn’t mask up? Cause if only everyone would wear 2,3, maybe 4 masks or more and then go out and try 2, maybe 3 of the EUA “vaccines” then maybe, just maybe we could relax a little bit and live life? We’d all be saved then, right?
Good luck with that Boomer…
Erev Shabbat Shalom
There’s a special place in hell for those who discourage wearing masks in the middle of a pandemic. Those who run anonymous sockpuppets are not exempt.
You got nothing Barry, just the same tired old NPC lines you’re programmed to say.
We were lied to about masks. We were told they’d make a material difference in spreading of Covid-19 and so would closing restaurants. Now the CDC has admitted that neither did statistically anything and the harms from the shutdowns killed many times more people than were saved. Yet still to this day the media claims “masks work” because someone said they did.
We knew that was a lie 40 years ago.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2493952/pdf/annrcse01509-0009.pdf
In fact 40 years of hard science says masks do nothing to interdict transmission of airborne viruses and indeed doesn’t even work for bacteria as source control in an operating room; bacteria are many times the size of a virus. The press has maintained all of this fiction. We’ve had several attempts to challenge it over the decades since — without success. Indeed, as I’ve pointed out since this crap started last year not one controlled trial has ever found statistical evidence for mask use in the general population among untrained persons. Instead it’s just…… the lie.
Oh, it’s just a mask you say. Oh really? That’s all? You’re sure? You have excused this and let the media continue to get away with it because it’s just a mask, or it’s just your political enemy?
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7010e3-H.pdf
.The CDC itself has now stated quite clearly that mask mandates are statistically worthless; they are good for roughly only a 2% reduction in Covid-19 death rates. Note that their inside statistical claim (“worst case”) was less than 1% for both cases and deaths. Worse, closing restaurants was only good for a 2.2 percent, at the outside, reduction in cases and the inside, that is, least case rate reduction from closing restaurants for inside dining, was literally zero.
Statistically speaking without the mask mandate the CDC admits that only between one and four additional persons would have died in Buncombe County. How many additional people committed suicide, OD’d on drugs or drank themselves to death over the last year above the previous year’s rate as a result of the mandate?
Last time I checked dead is dead and the why does not matter; the claim that the mandates “saved lives on balance” is admitted by the CDC itself in its own document to be a bald-faced lie.
How many suicides and drug ODs locally and nationally were caused by the employment and social interaction destruction via these mandates? How many women did not go to the doctor for a suspicious lump, a senior to work up an odd neurological symptom, or a Black man for that pain in the chest and now are dead from cancer, a heart attack or stroke as a direct consequence of being fraudulently scared into believing that any contact with others will kill them? What makes you believe those excess deaths are over now? They most-certainly are not!
We can only account for about half of the excess death in the last year via Covid-19 alone, assuming you even believe that Covid-19 claimed “deaths” were really caused by Covid-19 while there was no flu-related death at all.
Let’s just take one statistical increase — death by overdose. At 3% — the outside boundary for mask “benefit”–masks saved 15,000 lives in America (out of the 500,000 allegedly lost to Covid-19), assuming you believe every Covid-19 death counted is really from Covid-19. The run rate of death from ODs at the start of the Covid-craze was approximately 70,000/year. As of July, the latest date for which data is available at present the OD expected 12-month count (remember, this is only about five months of time!) stood at 83,544.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/drug-overdose-data.htm
Are you sitting down? Good.
There was no net benefit whatsoever to the mask mandates counting just ODs and in fact there were materially more OD deaths caused on an annualized basis than there were lives saved from masks. Alcohol abuse, cancers, heart attacks, stokes and similar also count and show up in all-cause mortality; as noted only half of that increase can reasonably be attributed to Covid-19. If the restaurant shutdowns and masks were only good for a 0-3% reduction in outcomes then the deaths that resulted from the policy responses and mandates were much worse than the “benefits” gained in the form of fewer Covid-19 deaths. That puts the lie to the ridiculous mask up “for the greater good” clucking.
Note that the CDC “study”referenced above is utter crap; I could trivially tear it apart but for the purpose of this I will give the CDC the benefit of accepting “as pled, is true” the assertions they make. In other words I will not even bother ripping their alleged “study” to bits because even if I accept it without question the data still says they’re murderous *******s and their interventions had a net effect of killing people instead of saving them!
Let me be clear: The CDC has admitted in print that for every 1 death avoided through closing restaurants and bars along with mask mandates, five to ten deaths were caused in the form of excess suicides, drug ODs, alcohol abuse, cancers, strokes and heart attacks, none of which had anything to do with Covid-19 infection but all of which were a function of social, financial, and economic stress their demanded mandates deliberately imposed on the population.
IN OTHER WORDS THE CDC ADMITTED IN PRINT THAT THEIR BULL**** “MANDATES” AND “RECOMMENDATIONS” KILLED FIVE TO TEN TIMES MORE PEOPLE THAN IT ALLEGEDLY “SAVED.”
Yet these bastards have not, after admitting in print that their demanded mandates in fact caused five to ten times as much death as was avoided, reversed course and demanded a rescission of all such “rules” and regulations nor have the people of the nation apparently been able to perform basic arithmetic and then started erecting gallows on the lawn of every single government agency that has refused to stop killing the people within their jurisdiction at a greatly increased rate through their mandates.
Over 400,000 Americans are dead as a direct and proximate result of all of this and yet here we are with the NY Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/13/us/coronavirus-florida-booming.html?referringSource=articleShare) admitting in print what I’ve said all along: None of the so-called “mitigations” and measures, whether they be mask mandates, business closures, school shutdowns or similar saved a single net person-year of life; in point of fact the data is that none of them did a damned thing except kill multiples of those “saved” by causing more suicides, drug ODs, heart attacks and similar, destroyed a year’s worth of our children’s education which will cost trillions of dollars alone in lost productivity over the next fifty years, and statistically-speaking the same number of people died of the virus that would have died anyway.
Every single one of the rat bastards in government and so-called “public health” deserves to be tried and executed for their intentional destruction of human life and dignity for political and financial profit. They knew damn well on the data that their policies did not, could not, and would not work in the summer and early fall and continued them anyway. Worse, we had decades of experience and hard science proving that they wouldn’t work before Covid-19 ever appeared.
Willful blindness cannot be used as an excuse.
In that I was right a year ago stating publicly here on MtnX that none of the lockdowns, mask orders, business and school closures would have a net positive impact and unlike damn near everyone else I have not changed my position on the usefulness of such measures, I will now enjoy taking a little victory lap here.
You’re welcome Summers.
The only people who killed people were bio-terrorists like you who refused to wear a mask and downplayed every attempt to protect your fellow human beings. Take your victory lap among the damned.
You completely misunderstood that first CDC article you cited. It didn’t say there was a 2% reduction in covid deaths. It said there was a 2% reduction in the *daily* growth rate. So rather than having 2% less total cases, every day the number of total cases was rising 2% *less* than it was before the mask mandate.
I guess you don’t follow the right, and I do mean way, way right, news outlets. https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/scicheck-posts-distort-cdc-study-supporting-masks-mandates-to-reduce-covid-19/
@Sarah Clement – they presented both total case count delta percentages AND death percentages. The two SHOULD be equal unless a mandate tends to shift cases toward more or less morbid people, which apparently with restaurant closures, it does.
The study is crap by the way; the study ITSELF states that there are confounders they did not control for which screw the results, but as I said, I gave it to them “as pled”, which is extremely generous. Nonetheless there’s no way that the mandates been a net win…nationally, or most especially for the Asheville community and economy.
Even if you take the two measures in combo we did not come out ahead because you have to count all the various increased mortalities I listed– (suicides, missed diagnosis, etc.). Now add in the economic and mental health effects and the mandates were a clear loser.
PS–kudos for actually looking at the study instead of skipping straight to the part where you condemn someone you don’t even know to hell and damnation like the above respondents.
Here’s a story about the deceased. I hope you can all be civil.
https://avlwatchdog.org/covid-19-those-weve-lost/